Monday, December 1, 2008

THIRD RAIL CONVERSATIONS

OOH GIRL, NO YOU DIDN'T ..!

So my girl with the 'Tight Corset' has dated a few black guys before. Interesting.

And this is how I am going to discuss my issues with white girls. I don't have much experience with intimate relationships with them. I don't know why that is, just how it has worked. Am I open to being with someone who wasn't black? Sure I am, but what I HAVE BEEN TOLD, is that I am not 'hood enough' (and y'all think I use that reference cause I am not creative enough? YOU'RE RIGHT!), which is odd, because for some black women, I am not 'that' either!!

Also, I have wondered if I wouldn't be just an 'experiment' for someone. Maybe they are rebelling, doing something reactionary because they can do it. Shaking my head, because it is sooo hypocritical, but I once was worried that someone would be 'playing' me, as I would be trying to have a sincere relationship.

One of the things that have been mentioned to me by others, is that maybe a white woman would share more of my interests, socially and politically. Perhaps rabbit, perhaps, but then I think of Tee Jay and especially of Pecan Sandie (who is the only person in my intimate life who saw more in me, than I did myself), they were both surprised to discover what they once thought of was 'this' was actually 'that', and we were closer to one another, than we were apart.

Then there is the '8 mile Factor'.

Depends on the people doing the counting, but one thing I think there is a consensus on, is that I am in one of the top five segregated metro areas in the country. Sure, I think that there is someone here, someone white, that I could have a relationship with and we both be happy. Even as the racial tension has eased, it is still there at least present to me, and after all I am a creature of my perceptions.

I mean, I've gone places here and still don't run into any 'Corsets' to loosen *wink*. I don't think it is because of how I look, because a girl paid me a compliment Saturday that let me know I am still in style! But that was within the city limits, and it was a sister girl.

This get sooo complicated, and it shouldn't be that way. This is one of the rare areas in my life where I have sorta kinda accepted the default position. That said, if I were to ride out to the Westland Mall and run into 'Becky'... hey, I would be soo there! In fact, if Katrina Hancock was slummin' downtown Detroit and wanted to have some coffee after she did her sportscast, I would be there too!

DON'T FORCE IT

Whew! Thinking about this stuff makes my stomach roil! It gets confusing. Black girls who think I am not black enough, get mad at you for dating a white girl, who in turn wants someone to give her ... wait for it, STREET CRED, and lose interest in me. It gets a little dizzying, and I don't over concern myself with it.

The process for me has been as follows: Work on myself. Seize the opportunity when it comes. Not that difficult at all. I like that formula, and while I tweak it a little, essentially, I keep to that script.

Nebraska had asked something akin to Dr. Phil's 'how's that workin' for you?', regarding my results, considering I gave so much in my relationship with Mookie. I shrugged my shoulders ... I don't think she really understood that I was discovering so much about myself as it, my relationship with Mookie wound down to its conclusion. I was tired of tasking others, and not know if I could endure things. I mean, I am confident and all that, but there is something about finding out how tough, strong and resilient that I can be, that is a big part of my character.

I haven't let what is outside of me conscioulsy drive my choices. I am what I am, because this, this is what I am. Not because of peer pressure, either making me join in, or turning me away from things. What I did, I chose.

Remembering how it came to me to box ... to jump out of helicopters ... to get Tee Jay's number! I chose all of those things.

It made sense to me to leave a 'line' out for Nebraska, to keep her in my life. I chose to see what would happen if I tried to 'go back' and expect to move forward. I know how BAD an idea that is ... but I didn't choose it, as much as it was brought to me.

SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THIS

I'd rather be working on my little story. I'd rather be talking about the feelings that I get seeing President Barack Obama. I thought I wouldn't feel a little extra 'kick', but I do. Hey, I am a normal cat, not some Persian or Siamese! I think that he is really going to be a good leader, BUT am I the only one that thinks this phony war on terror, the battles in Iran and Afghanistan, will do to us what Afghanistan already did to the old USSR?

Would have rather talked about the great Ga. Tech - Georgia game, or the fight that was on ESPN Classic. Talk about training, which is still going on for me. There are other good things happening, that I would rather be chatting that up. But I guess there is more to say going this way ...

Oh, Carolina - State at Ford Field, playing basketball Wenesday night ... I am soo there!

10 comments:

Princess said...

Hi! Thanks for visiting my journal. It's always nice to hear from people out there in the world...lol I'm originally from Buffalo, NY... and ended up in Greensboro, NC with my mom and stepdad. So that takes care of that remark u made about not knowing where I came from to end up in gboro...lol anyhow... Yes, Josh passed away he was my cousin... i miss him so bad, and Rob is sort of my boyfriend...lol I dont really know anymore at this point, so i'm just living life. but anyway... I look forward to hearing more from you!

Heather said...

Here's how it happened... I grew up in a fairly segregated area of the south... and all that comes along with that. I went through my first divorce and was dating here and there but no one really seemed to have the qualities I wanted in a man. I developed a friendship with my son's baseball coach and remarked to a mutual friend that if he were white he would be perfect for me... and she said, "then he is perfect for you". I realized then that I couldn't cheat myself out of something potentially wonderful because of race.

It was about another year or two before we actually became involved and for quite some time we kept our relationship private because HE was worried about the racial connotations. His father is in his nineties and therefore his grandparents were alive in the late 1800's... can you imagine the times they grew up in? I have never met his father but have met his mother... although she didn't know who I was. My parents, on the other hand, knew that we had a close friendship and even loaned him their car to drive for a month or so while his was being repaired.

New paragraph since you dislike my runon paragraphs. I never thought about street cred. I'm sorta past that stage. Maybe I never was in it. My guy is whiter than me... his views are more conservative. He speaks better english and is more careful with money. We bust a few stereotypes. I have had some shorter relationships - maybe just flirtations - with other black guys - not necessarily because I sought them out, but just because I wasn't opposed to it. And they have run the gamut...

You just totally outted yourself as my cyber crush! *laugh*

*huge hugs*
heather

Myra said...

Interesting perspective! You always have a way of spinning things to reflect how they affect you...and that is so ok. Makes you normal, and lovable.

mrs.missalaineus said...

<<<<---- never dated a dude to get 'street cred'. i earned it all on my own.

so is the nebraska phase about as over as the lions' season? (the person and the place)


xxalainaxx

Celeste said...

I grew up in a small Southern town where no blacks lived. The only ones I saw were the men that worked where my father did and the ones i saw when my mama and i went downtown. My other experiences were seeing the riots of the 60's on TV. In my teens I moved to Denver and met a nice black guy. We went out quite a few times without my mother knowing. I just had the feeling that she would not approve. If I closed my eyes I would never have known he was black because he did not speak or act "hood". His sister did not approve of us dating, she did speak "hood". She DID not get it from her parents. She violently opposed us dating. She was not the only one. Due to the violence I suffered I never dated another one again. In those days I was not strong enough to withstand it. BTW ALL of the violent acts against me were by the blacks. To this day I remember his sister telling me that no white trash ho from Georgia was going to have her brother's baby and trap him.
I applaud anyone who is able to make a go of a mixed marriage. My grandparents were an example(Indian and white)

Lisa said...

Mark, always enjoy your entries, Hugs Lisa

betty said...

look for an email from me, Mark; all good things in it; just don't want my comment public :)

betty

Wes said...

Mark:

I've dated what I've dated and have no regrets. Maybe a couple, I should have been completely sober. (They had very ugly personalities)

The dating world has not been in my equation, I have been with Lisa since January 1999.

I hope you have a great dat today!

Peace&Love
Wes

Ken Riches said...

IMO, you have established street cred as the reason a "white" girl would go out with you. From the things I have learned about you, I think it would be because of the person you are. Do not sell yourself short, and keep an open mind.

Beth said...

Any woman who dates you because they want street cred, or because they're rebelling against whatever they feel the need to rebel against is not worth your time. You have so much to offer, Mark, and you are such a fascinating and interesting guy--and yes, you are a lovable mess!--that anyone worth anything would be pleased to spend time with you.

That's what I have to say about it!

Love ya,
Beth